Aug 282023
Your Intrepid Blogger has recently learned that Californian’s foremost political grifter Joe Collins III, has recently thrown down the gauntlet and challenged long time GOP activist Steve Frank to a debate.
Not since the “Thrilla in Manila” or the “Rumble in the Jungle” will we mere mortals be ringside for such political fisticuffs. Heck, I’d love to serve as moderator of this five-alarm dumpster fire.
Gentlemen pick your date, time and venue.
All that is required of both of you is official DOD proof that you were in fact honorably discharged from your respective branches of the Military…
Before it’s “Showtime” …It’s DD-214 time.
This is guaranteed to be Standing Room Only…
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Sounds more like a Bum Fight?
Well, that would be interesting.
Except I’m not overly familiar with the players involved. Hmmm. Is this THE Joe Collins, who has on his Linkden, Texas House D-70?? That Joe Collins? The pictures seem to be the same. So, is he a Republican or a Demo? Maybe he switched. I’l like to know a little more about this, but from the leetle bit I”m reading, this doesn’t sound too much like a Repub to me. (But, I’m new, so I digress). Heard of Steve Frank, but that’s bout it. Is he special? High up? Influential?
Battles of 214’s, in my minds eye, is stupid. You either were, or you weren’t, discharged honorably from your branch of service. Easy enough to look up, I suppose, if someone is THAT curious. Collins’s page seems to indicate a ranking of somewhere between E4-E6. Ok, curious, but ok. The other one, never heard of any 214 issues, so I can’t make an argument one way or the other.
I question Mr Collins sincerity on the topic, of Blacks and Hispanics being in the party. You’re a Black Man, what does a Hispanic have to do with you? That smells like a DEMO talking point, broken down to the degree of “poorly represented population”. What was actually said, that you start off by yelling, that Mr Frank is a ‘racist piece of shit.’?Something got your goat, and it be nice to know what, since you made the claim.
Minorities not joining the party? Hmmm, interesting. The WHY, seems to be based upon one mans experiences. Mr Collins blames non whites not joining the R party due to Mr Franks. Ah, ok. If you say so. This all sounds, really more like a personal quirk than anything really of political hay. But, that’s just me. My wife accuses me of making snap judgements and being wrong often. (I refute that claim, but ok, she’s the Misses).
Still, If the publisher of this would be so inclined, I’d like to take up this mantal of a Challange to a Debate!!! I think it would be fun, fascinating and a great experience for me!! Just think, (1) I get to post up MY DD214!!! Neither of the 2 Vets will be able to hold water on MY claim to fame. (2) I would enjoy the challenge of engaging with Mr Collins, on Minority issues with the Repub, being that A) I was an African American Special Skills worker at our local Welfare office, and B) I am also a Hispanic male! Yea, this minority issue will be neat to hear! 3) I would get to cut teeth with a Republican Activist for mucho education/experience for my first outing!! YEAH!!! I’d LOVE to do that one too!!
So, Count me in!!!
I TOO, WISH TO FORMALLY CHALLENGE BOTH MEN TO A DEBATE!!!
Steve? I don’t know if he’s running for anything. Collins? Seems like he’s running for Congress as an REPUB in Cali but as a DEMO in Texas? Which is it? Me??
I am running for California State Governor, as a Republican, 2026.
LET’S ROCK!!!!! (from the movie ALIEN)
Clearly this Lee from Sacramento isn’t terribly bright.
He sounds like he’s related to that corporal in Yolo.
A Veteran’s DD214 IS NOT a public record. Read here:
The Privacy Act of 1974 limits access to a veteran’s DD214 to only the service member (either past or present) or the member’s legal guardian; only these persons will have access to almost any information contained in that member’s own record.
Collins…stop being a chicken s#@t and show us that you are honorably discharged.
Steve Frank is a racist??? I do believe Steve is Jewish…but I am not sure. I never asked because it was never important. Steve is many things…but ‘racist’ is not one of them. This is just more WOKE crap! and ” Californian’s foremost political grifter Joe Collins III,”???..gto boot!! LMAO
Is this the same Joe Collins who ran against Maxine Waters and his FEC reports showed money being spent on expensive restaurants, and other things that donors probably didn’t think they’d be paying for ……The fact that he can’t respond to Steve Frank without using the SH*T word a few times would seem to indicate he doesn’t have self control and can’t express himself appropriately.
A waste of Steve’s time ….,I’d like to see him debate Aaron.
First, apologies to the blog owner.
2nd, apologies to those who believe, think, or feel, that I had the GALL, to challenge Mr Steve Franks to a debate; for not knowing WHO he is; for ‘calling him out’; and for supposedly losing ‘credibility’ while trying to commit ‘seppuku’ in the downtown Burbank office of the GOP, all the while looking for support to run for Gov of this state.
3rd? …..there is no third.
I’ve heard the following statements throughout the years, and quite frankly, I’m getting fed up with hearing them. That being: California is a lost cause. No Republican can win in California. No Republican will get support, in California. It’s not worth it.”
Wow. For the UPPER crust of GOP politics, I can only ask this question:
Why are you here? Why are WE here?
Is this what you tell those people who VOTE Republican? Is this what you tell people who SUPPORT The Repub party here in California? (The little/few that’s left anyways) I’m betting, you don’t do either. I’m betting, that you do everything BUT, make those statements in the open. But, you’re Republicans, right? Honest ones, right? Or is this ONLY about being in a paid position; being IN the know or just pretending it all makes a difference.
I’m no political hack. I’m no political expert, and I’m certainly NOT going to ask about every ‘ who is who ‘ when a name is tossed around, to make sure I’m not popping a foe, friend, supporter or otherwise. Have I, lost any credibility? Not in MY mind. DID I, out someone in the party who’s a ‘friend’? Not, in MY mind.
So, that I can clarify where I stand, let me say this:
Mr Franks has a lot of credibility, in his expansive career within the Party. Not in debate.
Far outweighs my creds. He is vastly more experienced in the field, far outweighs mine.
He’s given speeches, written articles, and does radio, far above what I’ve done.
With that being said, again, I would still like to Debate with him, nonetheless. Like sparring with the champ. He either accepts or doesn’t. I would hope he does, so we can have the internal session/discussion, and I could learn from him and pick up pointers. If this offends anyone, I don’t know what to tell you.
As to the DD214 issue? Mr Franks has LOTS of cred for the party. My DD214 still outweighs his. Period. That’s not boldness, bravado, nor pride. It’s fact. I definitely outweigh Mr Collins, hands down, point blank, period. There IS no question about HONORABLE discharge concerning MY service time. That too, is fact.
I believe I in fact, DID wish to challenge Mr. Collins to a debate. For that one, it would seem as a no-name contest of no names. More no name for me, however. Either way, the challenge is there. If the blogger would pass that along, or some pundit, OR wait till I can relay the email myself to the blogger, fine. Either way, THAT challenge was made directly; THAT challenge was indeed, outing the man. THAT challenge WILL be no holds barred conversation between party members.
For anyone else who honestly believes CALI is a ‘waste of time and effort’; It may well be, but not by myself nor others who still live here. Not by myself or others who have stayed, fight and continue to fight, for this state AND our livelihoods. Street Credibility? Pfffttttt. Since 2006, where has this party, and the EXPERTS, been? EXPERTS. People IN THE KNOW. Right? Demo control increased it seems, at our expense. I’ve stated for years ON the radio, we’ve grown to irrelevance, where losing is good and trying to win is useless. If it rattles you, irks you or makes you mad? Deal with it. It’s fact. If I was so wrong, so uninformed, SO UNEDUCATED, we’d have had different political outcomes since 2006. Losing a congressional seat, tells me lots. Losing MORE people since the census tells me much. Hearing people complain about the very THINGS I discuss in MY platform, tells me much. “I don’t have the cash”, says a pundit. “It’s not the message that counts, it’s the cash you can raise that matters.”
riiiiiiiiiight. When Jesus lost a sheep, he didn’t much concentrate on the ones who were there, he looked for the lost one. I’m not overly focusing on the Repub areas, I am challenged to go into the BLUE areas. THAT”S where the change needs to be made. Three Cities/counties made the last election: San Fran, Los Angeles, and San Diego. If I can crack that? I have a chance. If I can acquire what Mr Dahle acquired, we have a chance. If I can win in California? Then this state, has a chance. If you feel otherwise, if you feel I’ve no chance in hell, if you feel I’ve offended you? Get past it. If I were to directly ‘out’ someone, there would be, NO doubt.
I’m doing this to win. “Lead, Follow, or get out of my way.” It’s that simple.
If you like the way this state is ran? Then you won’t be voting for me. If you’re overly sensitive, you won’t’ be voting for me. John Paul Jones said it best when asked, “Sir? Do you yield?” Jones: No sir, I have not yet begun to fight!
If you’re tired of the politics currently in our state and tired of where our state is and where it’s seemingly headed? I hope to earn your trust, confidence, donations, endorsements AND your Vote. I WILL EARN THAT, as it’s the least I can do.
Again, Thank You Mr Parks, for the opportunity to clarify, where I stand.
Leo Naranjo IV (R) Governor State of California 2026
I also challenge some of you to read, Matthew 17:20.
Mustard seed…..that’s me. (smile)
waving HI PAT!!
Don’t know who LEE is.
If I’m not too bright, what’s that say about my intellectual level vs an attorney, who obviously learned more than me:
“A state appellate court has reinstated a libel and slander lawsuit against Congresswoman Maxine Waters by a former Republican opponent. The three-justice panel unanimously ruled a judge erred when she granted a motion by Waters to dismiss the lawsuit brought against her by plaintiff Joe E. Collins III, who ran against her in the 2020 election. Collins alleged the 84-year-old Democrat’s campaign materials and radio commercials falsely stated that the Navy veteran was dishonorably discharged. Collins said he served honorably for 13 1/2 years in the Navy, receiving decorations and commendations and left the Navy under honorable conditions. –>Collin’s attorney Donna Bullock says they’re pleased with the appellate court ruling and the fact the justices believed that Waters had crossed the line between free speech and defamation. Bullock said that Waters or anyone else could have gone online and paid $25 to find out a veteran’s discharge status. <— The case is now headed for trial.
She's bright!!??? So much for the EDUCATED people. $25 dollars to settle this?
At any rate, I agree. Just like the demand about Donalds taxes, just ' show us the forms', and the debate is ended. Who brought it up tho? Articles I've read, are that Maxine Waters made the claim. What does she know that we don't? How did SHE get her info? WHERE did she get her info? Perhaps, the question being asked should be directed at her! Provide the PROOF Maxine, of your allegation! Short of that,
I challenge folks here:
Careful on what you're arguing for. Blatant accusations from Maxine Waters or even a DEMO without proof? (smirk) really?? Whomever started the conversation about DD214 irregularities, should be required to provide THEIR proof. If you aren't asking for THAT?
hmmmmmm..
What do I know, I'm not politically connected, nor educated, nor understanding.
ah, ok. If you say so. Should MY credibility be on the line for what I supposedly did above, boy, is YOURS taking it in the shorts for expounding a DEMO talking point with no basis. How fast we forgot, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Shame on ALL of you, for missing this point. Shame on ME for falling into the rhetoric. YOU folks are the politically connected. YOU folks KNOW better. and yet, this got by all of you??
smh…
Show us MAXINE, where did YOU get a service members DD214, that shows this person is other than, honorably discharged?? Other than that, kick rocks!
Geez
I need a Sheep Dip to get the stench of Leo and Charlie off after reading their nonsense….
Ya know I don’t know what your beef with me is or who you F’n are-just another blow hard….but go pound sand anyways. Charlie Schaupp
Charlie?? Like you told me, just ignore the nonsense.
It likes to make noise, nothing else.
Keep doing you!
Leo there is a time when you need to punch idiots in the nose!
Leo, there is a time when you need to punch idiots and goofballs in then nose…so to say.
LOL
Leo and Charlie sitting in a tree……..
Pat, really, I don’t think I even know you, and if we have ever met you were not noteworthy enough to remember. So have a nice day!